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Around the Horn: Baseball playoffs, Vikes vic and Wolves preseason romp

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It was a blast bouncing back and forth between the Red Sox and the Vikings pulling out squeakers last night. Bereft of Tivo, there is a stubbornly (stupidly?) old-school desire of mine to let caprice take its course, knowing that Sportscenter would have the really spectacular sports moments that I missed in the flipping. (BTW, PBS's excellent three-hour doc on Jimmy Carter also put in a strong claim on my viewing habits, but fortunately their stuff is widely available on video and reruns.)

Of course the Wolves likewise would have put a firm marker down on my media loyalty, had I been able to find a place where the game was being broadcast on either TV or radio--no such luck, not even with my handy nba.com listening pass for radio games. Just by checking the box score, it looks like a pretty meaningless game, in that the Bucks' Andrew Bogut didn't play, Richard Jefferson went a grand 8 minutes, and Michael Redd obviously continues to mail in his defense. But I'll get to (more of) all of that in a minute. Let's look at happenings on the diamond and the gridiron first.

I had fully intended to lodge my picks for the first-round of the MLB playoffs, but then other assignments piled up, I had a surprising Twins hangover (I'm a fair-weather fan, but the weather was pretty damn fair this year) and I saved myself the opportunity of looking clueless on at least two of the four series. Another reason I didn't weigh in was because my picks were conventional wisdom--I had the Cubs, Phils, Rays, and Angels, figuring the NL matchups would be three or four game blowouts, that the White Sox would be tougher than expected and that the Angels would need the full five to take the BoSox.

I underestimated the Cubs' capacity to celebrate their 100th year without a championship with an epic choke--when even Derek Lee is making errors and Zambrano is regarded as one of the cooler heads, you know the North Siders are toast. Driving back from the Wolves' scrimmage Saturday night, I managed to pick up WGN and hear the blatant, absolutely pathetic homerism of Pat Hughes and Ron Santo. Within two innings I had switched my allegiance and was rooting for the Dodgers. How bad is Santo? Well, the guy was cheering so hard for his home nine that he forgot to offer up any analysis, other than to say repeatedly that the Cubbies were thankfully not helping the Dodgers' starter, Kuroda, by swinging at bad pitches. Whenever there was even a slight ray of hope, he began excitedly saying that this was the breakthrough the team had been waiting for and now things were getting back into allignment. Alas, the squad left two men on base with two outs in three of the first five innings. Apparently not even God wanted to have mercy on Ron Santo.

Anyway, my "big" pick remains in play. About a month ago, I had one of those moments where my head and my gut were convinced of the same thing: This was the year the Phillies would win it all. I almost devoted an entire post to it, then thought about how awful my preseason picks had been (my division winners? Red Sox [no], Indians [no], Mariners [no!], D-Backs [no], Mets [no], and Cubs [yay]) and chickened out. Now I'm going to jinx them by going public with it.

They are the best balanced team in baseball. They've got superb table-setters in Rollins and Victorino (who both have more pop than your usual 1-2 guys), a hitting machine in Utley (yeah, I know he had a mediocre second half), two RBI studs in Howard and Burrell (both old fashioned homer-or-K hitters) and a guy in shadows coming into his own as a hitter in Jason Werth. With that kind of wood (and speed) among your top six, who cares if Feliz and Ruiz and whoever can't hit?

At the beginning of the season I thought the Phillies didn't have the pitching to contend, but retiring GM Pat Gillick (one of the game's most underrated talent evaluators, and perhaps the last of the great non-sabermetric GMs) went out and got Brad Lidge as his closer and then Joe Blanton during Oakland's fire sale. Cole Hamels emerged as a legit ace, and, in perhaps the key turnaround for the Phils, Brett Myers came back from the minors with his head on straight and harnessed his great stuff to become a tough #2 starter. This puts less pressure on the admittedly mediocre Blanton and junk-throwing octogenarian Jamie Moyer (he's at least 83, right?) at the back of the rotation. And the middle relief has been superb, including a pair of ex-Twins, Chad "Real Deal" Durbin, and JC Romero. Correction: Thanks to a reader comment, I now know that JD Durbin, who hasn't pitched for the Phils since '07, is the "Real Deal," and that Chad, the effective middle reliever of '08, is a former Royal, Tiger, etc.

The Phils overcame the Brewers three out of four without getting anything from their lefty mashers Utley and Howard. I think that will change against the Dodgers--and it had better, because LA has been playing better ball than Milwaukee or most anyone else the past six weeks. The arrival of Manny has been the biggest factor, of course, but having veteran Casey Blake around and now Raffy Furcal back solidifying the infield and leading off again is important--he's a damn site better than Angel Berroa--as is the ongoing maturation of Andre Ethier, who ironically helped chase Werth out of LA and into the arms of the Phillies. Against the Cubs, Manny came to the plate 14 times and was retired on only five of them. The farm system has been productive, providing James Loney and Russell Martin as well as Ethier (Blake DeWitt not so much).

The Dodgers' pitching is the equal of Philadelphia's. Derek Lowe is the veteran workhorse who gets the ground balls in tough situations, but Chad Billingsley has better stuff and is probably the ace in waiting. Either way, they are a formidable, if not overwhelming, 1-2 combo, and Kuroda's six shutout innings versus the Cubs indicates that the big stage of the postseason isn't going to make him flinch. Plus there is always future Hall of Famer Greg Maddux as an emergency starter or for long relief. The bullpen has customarily relied on the troika of righty Jonathon Broxton and lefty Joe Beimel setting up closer Takashi Saito, but Saito hasn't been as dominant this year as in the previous two, and is losing primacy to Broxton. In any event, this will be a whale of a series, with the winner going on to take the World Series. I still think that will be the Phillies.

Over in the AL, you got two more very likeable teams. It could be easy to hate on the Red Sox as the latter day Yankees, simply buying their way to championships, except that they have essentially remade themselves on the fly, and feature a bunch of exciting young hitters. This isn't the veteran squad of Schilling and Manny. In their series win over the Angels, it wasn't even really the team of Big Papi and Beckett and Mike Lowell. Instead, the stars were Jon Lester (who may or may not have been offered to the Twins for Santana) and Jed Lowrie (who was offered) and Jason Bay, who came over in the Manny three-way. They've also got MVP favorite Dustin Pedroia and MVP darkhorse (and deserving winner) Kevin Youkilis and the swift Jacoby Ellsbury (last season's playoff hero) and the sore-backed by dangerous JD Drew. On the mound, they've got Lester and Beckett and the back-rocking Dice-K, with Manny Delcarmen and Justin Masterson for the 6th and 7th, Okajima for the 8th and Papelbon for the 9th.

That should be enough to beat the Rays, who nevertheless should have a bundle of confidence from holding off the BoSox twice during key head-to-head series down the stretch. Furthermore, the Rays have beaten Boston eight of nine at home, and enjoy home field advantage in this series. Finally, it is all gravy by now, for this franchise, isn't it? They should be playing like they have nothing to lose.

Still, I don't think the Rays' pitching staff can withstand Boston's lineup. Scott Kazmire has the stuff of a legitimate ace, but can be prone to control problems, and the Red Sox have a lineup of judicious eyes, led by Youkilis and Drew. They also have a nice mix of vets who have been here and done that, and kids who are pumped to make their own mark this time around. The Rays have impressive young talent-- Longoria, Upton, Navarro-- and benefit from the return of Crawford and Baldelli. Carlos Pena and Cliff Floyd have provided great veteran leadership, along with Jason Bartlett (who is now officially overrated, right?). But I think Boston wins this thing in five or six games.

The Minnesota Vikings, on the other hand, are not likeable. Their coach is unimaginative, their big free agent acquisitions are underachieving, and if it wasn't for a 37-year old backup quarterback and a mighty-mite defensive back, they'd be 0-5 this season.

Nevertheless, even at 2-3, the Vikes are hardly out of the playoff chase. They caught a huge break with all the gift turnovers provided by the Saints last night (the game was brutally hard-hitting, but that isn't what caused the key miscues from Sean Payton's team) and survived a pair of punt-return TDs from Reggie Bush, who could have had three if he hadn't tripped himself. After Bush had already taken one back to the house and then nearly broke another, announcer Mike Tirico proclaimed, even as the ball was snapped to punter Chris Kluwe, "Don't kick it to Reggie Bush." Not only did Kluwe boot it right to Bush, but it was a line-drive, not allowing the coverage team time to get downfield. These are the kinds of abjectly stupid moves that make you question Childress. But I digress...

The Vikes are only a game behind the Bears, making their home-and-home matchups the biggest games of the season. The season is less than a third completed, but it is hard to imagine the NFC Central bagging a wild card spot when the conference's four best clubs all seem to reside in the East (Giants, Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles). Fortunately, the Vikes have played five relatively strong opponents thus far and now get a break in the schedule just as they are getting Bryant McKinney, and presumably safety Madieu Williams next week, back into action. Yeah, the surprising loss of EJ Henderson hurts, but half of EJ's prominence is the position he plays (the other half is his intelligence and physicality, both superior to backup David Herron).

Can the Vikings now beat the teams they are supposed to beat? That will determine whether they fight to the finish with Chicago and Green Bay for the division crown. Frankly, I've been surprised at the lack of dominance by either the offensive or defensive lines. You got at least three Pro Bowlers on each side of the ball on those lines. Yet they couldn't protect Frerotte (the aged QB) or spring marvelous RB Adrian Peterson last night. On the other side of the ball, the Williams duo and Jared Allen should make the Vikes are fearsome as the other elite NFL defenses. Is it that the Ravens and the Steelers and Titans have better linebackers? Yes, and that's what I mean about Henderson, who is good but not great. But two years ago the linebackers were likewise iffy and the front four was a brick wall nonetheless. Besides, Henderson and Ben Leber and company aren't that ordinary, and with Winfield and Darren Sharper in the secondary, the Vikes have solid, proven talent throughout their defense. True, they haven't exactly been bowled over by anyone this season, and the caliber of opponent has been rugged. But Frerotte isn't going to stay healthy the entire season, Winfield isn't going to score touchdowns every other game, the receiving corps is mediocre at best, and defenses are going to continue to gang up on AP. It is ultimately up to the lines, the true heart and soul (and source of greatest investment) on this team, to tighten up and begin dictating play. Otherwise, Brad Childress will be looking for work in January.

Which brings us to the Wolves. Not having seen nor heard the game, I'm going by what I get out of the box score. And the first thing I get is that the Bucks sent out their JV team, with Bogut out, Jefferson limited to the first 7:57 (during which the Wolves were merely plus +2, at 14-12), and point guards Tyronne Lue and Luke Ridenour sidelined, leaving Ramon Sessions to play 35 minutes and commit five turnovers.

At one point the lead was 45 points, and the final margin was 117-79. Given the absence of competitive resistance, what the stats begin to reveal is what roles the players assumed for themselves. For example, Mike Miller led the team with 7 assists while shooting only 5 times in 26:11. By contrast, Kevin Love attempted a team-high 10 shots in 22:50, and yet didn't get to line once while his teammates were going 31-43 from the charity stripe. Love did tie for the team-high with two offensive boards (same as Al Jefferson). Shaddy McCants obviously went to the hoop, ringing up 12 FTA in 19:24, which, combined with his 5-6 shooting (including 2-3 3ptFG), gave him a team-high 22. Jefferson had 18, most of them early to set the tone. He says low-block scoring is "like riding a bike," a fabulous quote that is probably true for him.

Corey Brewer was 5-8 FG, and Bassy Telfair was 3-6 FG (and got to the line 5 times in 16:08). Both good signs for notorious bricklayers.

It was also nice to see a big lineup take the floor, with Mark Madsen set between Jefferson and Gomes up front and Miller and Foye in the backcourt. Next game is against the Oklahoma City Thunder. (I hate 'em already. Anytime you trade Oklahoma City for Seattle, well, for the love of Downtown Freddie Brown, your league is bound to suffer. A pox on David Stern's house.) In Billings, Montana. Maybe it will be on the radio.

37 Reader Comments

b (not verified)11:07pm
Oct 7
The Vikings defense has played very well this year and kept them in every game: quite a feat considering the utter ineptitude of the offense. This also applies to the lines: the defensive line is finally able to pressure with just a four-man rush, a lapse that damned the Tampa 2 scheme in previous years. The offensive line, however, has been spotty at best. These units must be evaluated as groups but Birk is obviously beginning to tail off and the number of penalties on the unit is simply unacceptable but even worse due to the heretofore inability of the offense to pass downfield with any regularity. Until the Vikings show they have someone not named Adrian Peterson that can threaten opposing defenses with explosive plays, they will get what a bad New Orleans defense gave them: sell-out blitzes vs. the run on 1st down followed by dropping into coverage on subsequent downs daring the QB to throw to anyone downfield. Frerotte-to-Berrian worked for one game and Shiancoe has found a degree of dependability but this offense has to put together a string of games where the passing game is considered a threat for any hope of getting into the playoffs. It is not impossible and may not even be improbable if Sidney Rice comes back healthy but no sane individual would put any money on the prospect of a renewed Vikings passing attack. Think about it: Berrian was first 100 yard Viking receiver in 35 games. That is outrageous.
Britt Robson11:38pm
Oct 7
Yeah, that is a remarkable stat you threw in at the end. I'd also agree with you that the d-line is outperforming their offensive counterpart. I guess I'm still disappointed because I remember how Allen destroyed the Vikes--Bryant McKinney, actually--when Minnesota played the Chiefs last year, and how dominant both Pat and Kevin Williams have been in the past against both the run (especially) and the pass. Still, the Bears and the Packers don't inspire awe, and if this safety Madieu Williams is worth the bucks they threw at him and can slide in beside Sharper instead of rook Tyrell Johnson, this team has a shot as the division. The big risks the way I see it are that Frerotte gets hurt--it is practically inevitable--and that in any case the offense remains too two-dimensional under Childress.
Sternmat (not verified)09:49am
Oct 8
Britt-- As always, your analysis is level-headed and to the point, and hard to argue with. It was good to see the Wolves knock down shots and get to the line against inferior oppoents. We'll see if it keeps up against better talent. And I like the fact that Wit went big -- both to hopefully set the tone as to how the team will play this year (i.e., playing collins as a defensive presence -- as much as he can be -- when needed) and hopefully to get Love to earn the starting big spot next to Jefferson. My only point of disagreement with your original post is re: Hughes and Santo. Although your critique is certainly valid and that it's the universal one you hear from people outside of Chicago who tune in to WGN. But as someone who lived in Chicago for 9 years, I have to say that Santo is the heart and soul of the cubs fan and represents what 100 years of futility can do to a true fan. He's one of those local tastes, like celery salt and sport peppers on your hot dog and two inches of cheese on your pizza, but I think he's earned a little lienency because he cares and he's seen so much heartbreak as a cubs fan. I think i'm a reasonable person (and I certainly wasn't born a cubs fan), but if you care about the Northsiders at all, one of the great joys of the summer is sitting outside and listening to Ron and Pat. Is he a great color guy? No way. Would I rather take him over the "Dazzle Man" and most of the former ballplayers doing "color" on the raido? Any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Blaine Fridley (not verified)11:10am
Oct 8
gotta agree with sternmat re: santos. i WANT my local broadcasters to be unabashed homers (see paul allen, kevin harlan when he was here), otherwise, what's the point of having a local broadcast? it adds a great element to the experience when you hear the announcers going on the same emotional roller coaster as you are when watching/listening. www.diaryoffools.com life is ridiculous. read about it here.
Britt Robson02:38pm
Oct 8
I understand and appreciate the difference between intelligent homerism and what Santo was spooling out Saturday night. Hawk Harrelson was another homer I couldn't stand--maybe it's something about Chicago's "Second City" inferiority complex, or something. I really enjoy PA and Kevin Harlan, in part because both of them, while being very enthusiastic about their own squads, take care to praise and point out quality play by the opponents, and also to fess up when their team is playing poorly, and why. Plus, neither one obsesses on the same prayer-like hope. If there is a homer-oriented note of hope or encouragement, it is said quickly in passing en route to describing the rest of the action. Plus, I think color guys who are homers have to do more than cheerlead. Isn't analysis what a color guy ultimately brings to the table. PA and Harlan are play by play--Santo, is the color guy.
pagingstanleyroberts (not verified)02:59pm
Oct 8
I think there needs to be a balance. Exciting plays are exciting plays; however, I don't see anything wrong with being somewhat more excited for home team success. We have some good ones around here -- none of the play-by-play guys are as good as PA, but I think the players-turned-analysts around here (Jim Petersen, Bert Blyleven, Dan Gladden, Pete Bercich) do a good job of straddling the line between excitement and objectivity. I don't need a broadcast team to complain that a call was bad just because it went against the home team. If a team's stinking up the joint, they shouldn't be afraid to say it. In baseball, it surprises me how the Dodgers have done this despite having so many big-name guys sitting on the bench (Jeff Kent, Nomar, Juan Pierre as benchwarmers, Andruw Jones and Brad Penny injured, Jason Schmidt no longer playing).
Blaine Fridley (not verified)10:42am
Oct 9
jim pete one of the best in the biz, for sure. good call.
Blaine Fridley (not verified)10:41am
Oct 9
britt- good points all per usual. please let the record show i am amending my opinion to reflect britt's views on "intelligent homerism". ps- always enjoy reading your stuff. www.diaryoffools.com life is ridiculous. read about it here.
Andy G (not verified)07:48am
Oct 8
Good stuff--it's nice to have the Wolves back. And it's nice to have them winning by 40--even if it's against a bad team's JV. Portland highlights were on SportsCenter. Oden looks like a man among boys--kind of like a young Shaq. That's bad news. Nobody's going to convince me that Jefferson or Love can guard that guy until they go out and prove it. He's huge.
Rascall Flatts (not verified)05:50pm
Oct 8
....which is why names like Hasheem Thabeet, Cole Aldrich, and Jerome Jordan need to be on our draft radar over the draft or two. We will need a true center with plenty of length, even if the person only plays a Dasagna Diop specialist role off the bench. I'm not convinced Pekovic is anything more than a European version of what we've already got in Jefferson and Love.
Andy G (not verified)11:14am
Oct 9
Maybe David Harrison will help out. He's 7' 280 lbs. A small risk (non-guaranteed contract, I believe) well-worth taking, given that we'll play a lot of games against big low-post scorers. I quickly counted the number of games against Portland, Houston, Phoenix and Orlando--it's 17. I think our record in those games improves with a huge center racking up 5 or 6 fouls than trying to play finesse ball and team defense for 48 minutes.
Britt Robson12:09pm
Oct 9
I love the risk-reward ratio of the Harrison pickup. I really liked him his rookie year but notice that he hasn't seemed to improve a lick since then. Even so, he's a coordinated seven-foot option in the games you mention. And pretty cheap.
Andy G (not verified)02:58pm
Oct 9
Whoops, I also meant to included LAL in that 17 game total. There are, obviously, other good big men in the league that Love & Jeff might struggle to defend, but I thought that group of five would be especially troublesome for a couple of power forwards trying to play center. Hopefully, Harrison can minimize some of that damage and help us win more of those games.
Britt Robson12:56pm
Oct 10
And don't forget the Clips--my dark horse playoff team this season--with Camby and Kamen as Twin Towers.
Andy G (not verified)01:36pm
Oct 10
Good point--I also left out San Antonio. That's 7 more games against 7-footers with low-post skills, and 24 total, if we're counting. The league (and West, especially) might not be getting as "small" as Wittman and McHale want us to believe. But, even if that's a bunch of BS to support and hype the Love trade, I think the Harrison move was smart and they probably realize that they'll need some major size to put out there in many, if not most games. I'm sure that a good chunk of minutes will involve a Love-Jefferson 4-5 combo, but that's why there is a coaching staff that can do their best to keep the matchups under control. When it's Amare-Shaq, Gasol-Bynum (who looks to have gained 30 lbs, by the way), or Camby-Kamen, they'll probably want Harrison or Collins in there to use up 8-10 hard fouls that Al cannot afford.
pagingstanleyroberts (not verified)01:26pm
Oct 11
Good stuff on Harrison. I also think their ultimate goal should be to make Love the 1st big off the bench while still playing him 30-plus minutes a game. McHale played that role for years and probably has a good idea of how much of a game-changer that guy can be (Horry for the Lakers and Spurs, Brad Miller for the Kings when Vlade was still there, John Salley and Rodman for the Pistons). That reduces the amount Jefferson and Love have to play together and, like Britt mentioned in a previous post, gives Love the opportunity this season to play with a running team off the bench.
RhinoLove (not verified)09:00am
Oct 10
I too have been waiting for a breakout from Harrison. He seems to have all the tools. But always seems to be overweight and unmotivated. Apparently he violated league drug policies, so maybe some chemical abuse problems were to blame. If he can put that stuff behind him, he is top 10 center material (no kidding), and still fairly young. A no-brain gamble if he doesn't infect the locker room. Oh yeah, my obligatory McCants plug... Maybe if the team management would show a sliver of commitment and respect for the guy, he'd commit more to a team first style of play. He may be our most talented player, yet management treats him like a red headed step child. Tell me they don't. And tell me the guy is not worth the trouble. He probably has more talent and upside potential than Miller, Brewer and Foye combined.
PMAC (not verified)12:06pm
Oct 10
Had to take the time to agree with the McCants thing. Seems like all the man desires is to be respected around the league, but he can't even seem to get any from his own team. He should be treated like a cornerstone of this team (since he's talented enough to be one). Then maybe he would act more like one, rather than constantly trying to prove everyone wrong.
Britt Robson01:10pm
Oct 10
After three years, I think anyone with total love or total hate for McCants is blind in one eye. The guy has tremendous talent and glaring flaws, and really strong cases can be made for him as a really good teammate and a really bad teammate. A part of me always roots for him because I have a natural affection for guys who seem to be wired a little differently than everybody else. I understand how Shaddy fans can chafe at the way he is treated by management and the coaching staff versus, say, the three first-rounders that have been taken after him. But let's not pretend he isn't a handful to deal with.
Andy G (not verified)01:50pm
Oct 10
It must have been about 10 or 11 months ago that I read a Star Trib article about McCants adjusting to his role as 6th Man. Now, there's another one in today's paper. I've been convinced for some time that Shaddy would be a good, or even great 6th man, and equally convinced that his defensive deficiencies and emotional instability (on the court--not off) would make for a so-so starter, at best. If all he has to worry about is coming in and making it rain for 3 or 4 stretches in a game, I think he's a great asset that every team in the league would like to have. Think about what gets made of Eddie House or Sasha Vujecic after a big playoff performance. These guys don't have nearly the ability of McCants, but they embrace their role and fans (and coaches) appreciate them for it. I think Boston or LA would take Shaddy right now and he'd be heard from in the playoffs. But in Minnesota, he feels embarrased to come off the bench, since we're not good. It's an awkward situation that will probably (although I hope not) end with Shaddy wearing new colors in 2009-10. He's too talented to ride the pine in Minnesota. He's not good enough to start on a good team. Wittman needs to learn the former and Shaddy needs to learn the latter. If and when those happen, Shaddy could be a 6th man of the year candidate. His defense isn't great but the effort is there and he could guard so-so bench players on opposing teams.
RhinoLove (not verified)02:32pm
Oct 10
Fantastic points. Not sure I completely agree (maybe I just don't want to agree), but very well reasoned. I just have a hard time buying that McCants doesn't have the tools and intelligence to improve his 'D' and frequent slips into selfish play. I really think McCants could become a complete player if given some combination of the following: 1) An emotional and financial commitment from the team. Show the guy you think highly of him and want him around, and maybe he'll stop trying to showcase his skills on every possession. 2) A respected vet on the squad. Not Mike Miller either. A guy that has been a good player on a winning team who still gives a shit. Someone who could call him out when needed. A PJ Brown type would be good. 3) The starting 2 spot. I think you are correct on the embarrassment factor. But, the Wolves coaching squad should also be embarrassed for playing lesser talents like Miller, Brewer and Foye ahead of McCants. If they can't manage the egos and maximize our meager talent, find some new coaches.
APB (not verified)03:52pm
Oct 10
I think I agree with Britt here. I am intrigued by McCants and definitely root for him. I think the McCant haters are just haters in general. He is very talented. But, calling Miller, Brewer and Foye "lesser talents" and sying none have any right to be playing in front of him his showing the other blind eye britt mentioned. McCants brings different things to the table than Miller, Brewer or Foye. There are many points in a game he should be playing instead of any of the three. But, when you need a defensive stopper McCants is the "lesser talent" to Brewer. When you need someone who can shoot his shot over a taller defender and make nice passes into the post while grabbing a rebound or two, McCants is the "lesser talent" to miller. When you need someone to run the point McCants is the "lesser talent" than Foye. However, this does not make McCants a "lesser talent" than any of them just a surely as none of these three are lesser than he is.
RhinoLove (not verified)04:46pm
Oct 10
Miller is taller, Foye is supposedly a better PG, and Brewer a better defender...agree on all points. Now are any of them better all around players than McCants? More talented? More upside? I would say no, which is why I think we should make the starting 2 guard spot his to lose. I am certainly not blind to his faults, but when you are as bad as the Wolves, you've got to roll the dice on the guy with the higher ceiling, and that is McCants. McCants is good off the bench, and hell, it might even be a better fit for him long term. But he is clearly better than the guys that are playing in front of him. It's partly a matter of respect, but I also think it would help his development- the security of the starting role.
APB (not verified)06:59am
Oct 13
Going into 2008-09, I think Miller is obviously better than McCants and give the WOlves a better chance to win each night. McCants is a great talent to have coming in as the sixth player. I don't think there are many coaches in the league who would start McCants over Miller. Perhaps, Miller at the three and MCants at the 2. McCants should get minutes over Brewer, based on all around talent, but not Foye and Miller. The ideal is McCants coming off the bench, though. I think we will see him finishing the game. Starting is not that big a deal. Manu, Manu, Manu....
Bean (not verified)08:32am
Oct 8
Take it easy. There are reasons. See below. http://thesportsbean.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/gus-frerotte-admits-to-being-mildly-retarded-2/
Dan (not verified)10:25am
Oct 8
A few quickies...first off, I am a huge wolves fan and currently overseas. Does anyone know if the NBA offers an online gave/video coverage package similar to the NFL, MLB, and NHL(The NBA can't really let the NHL out due it can they)? Secondly, I am looking forward to a nice 30 win season by the Wolves. Improvements will be made but I am still suspect about Wittman. I like Love (don't love him, but hopefully he turns out to be a Brad Miller type player), but I can't see how a tandem of he and Jefferson on the court at the same time would make any sense at all. That is in the Curry/Randolph category of post defense. Hopefully I am dead wrong, but if he doesn't show he can start in this league, it would be hard for Mcfail to justify drafting essentially a back up with a top five pick. And also, Rashards potential is exciting. For all his faults, I think he is often the forgotten man. He sure can score the basketball, and if you recall, he did seem to make some improvements on defensive the season he came back from his knee injury (two years ago I believe). Unfortunately, he regressed defensively and attitude-wise last season, but I do not think he is a lost cause yet.
doubleplusgood (not verified)10:52am
Oct 8
Britt, Not to bust your chops, but you got a couple of names wrong in your column. Should have been Jacoby Ellsbury, Ramon Sessions. Also, Chad Durbin never played for the Twins, it was J.D. Durbin. Both happen to be on the Phillies roster though. Love your columns. Can't wait for to see how the Wolves season unfolds.
Britt Robson02:17pm
Oct 8
You have every right to "bust my chops" if the things you are pointing out are errors. Just so you know, the informality of this blog format sometimes causes me not to sweat the little stuff like Sessions's first name (I did think it was Ronnie) and the Ellsbury thing was a mind burp--I've typed his name right more than once before. But mixing up Chad and JD Durbin is unacceptable even by my own carefree standards--missing a first name is one thing, confusing a person with another simply bad journalism. I knew that a former Twin named Durbin was a Phillie and after a horrible first couple of appearances after they picked him up last year, he had settled down and pitched well. But little did I know (obviously) there was another Durbin. Thanks for being gracious as you correct my work. I want to stress that errors of any kind, even the minor ones, are nettlesome to me. But the Durbin thing affects credibility and that can't happen very often before you aren't taken seriously. I *do* take that threat very seriously. The errors have been corrected.
pagingstanleyroberts (not verified)10:56am
Oct 8
J.D. Durbin is the former Twin. He pitched for the Phils last year. Chad Durbin is a former Royal/Tiger/Indian. When I saw him in one of the games of the series, I thought the same thing until realizing that J.D. and Chad look nothing alike.
pagingstanleyroberts (not verified)10:58am
Oct 8
Sorry; I need to read the posts more thoroughly. I was surprised, though, that J.D.'s not on their roster anymore. Also, Joe Beimel was a September callup with the Twins in 2004.
Britt Robson02:28pm
Oct 8
psr-- Nice catch on Beimel. I don't remember his three appearances at all four years ago. Yet another example of how the maturation of relievers can be a real crap shoot. And thanks (to you and the poster who beat you by 4 minutes, below) for pointing out the Durbin snafu.
Britt Robson10:52pm
Oct 8
In the last couple of years it felt like one of my favorite sportswriters, Bill Simmons, had slipped a little bit. I know I've been less than kind to his opinion on a few occasions, especially his Kevin Durant fixation. Well Simmons knocks this Elgin Baylor tribute out of the park. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/081008&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines As someone who saw Baylor play most of his career, I just want to say that Simmons is right about his talent. As a kid growing up, only Oscar Robertson seemed a better all around player than Baylor. He was a forerunner of Dr. J. But it is more than just hoops Simmons is talking about. This is one of his all-time pieces--and that's saying something.
antonymous (not verified)11:48am
Oct 9
Ha - I was actually stopping by to drop that link as well...I don't read as much Simmons anymore, but I'd seen this article linked to elsewhere. It's truly a nice piece by him - I think he set a personal best for "least number of references to pop culture". Not quite sure on what I'm reading about the Wolves preseason games so far. Yes, you can't look into them too deeply (20+ TOs both nights), but it looks like same old - Rashad scores in bunches and is getting to the line, Foye isn't. Nice to see decent rebounding numbers from Miller and Brewer. Why doesn't the NBA do the same thing with preseason that they do with summer league - put those games up online! I'm sure there are more restrictions regarding "exclusive" local TV schedules, but even a day or two after the fact I'd still love to watch and evaluate the rookies and other players who are bound to ride pine over the next several months. Of course, as soon as I type all this, I dig deeper into the mess that is nba.com, but I can't figure out if the "all-access" section has video of complete games or not...well, it's free (and it's the way to get free audio streaming), so I'll see what I can find.
Anonymous (not verified)01:27pm
Oct 9
I have Britt's column on my RSS feed, and read it and the reader posts all the time. Having never chimed in, I feel compelled to do so after seeing Paul Allen described as a good play-by-play announcer by a few posters. You folks are really drinking the kool-aid if you think Mr. Allen is any good at play-by-play, as he, by far, is one of the worst announcers of all time. Having lived all over the upper midwest in my 50+years gives me the confidence to say this. He calls football games like he calls races at Canterbury. On a long run or pass reception that will be a Vikes TD, he usually says, AND HE IS GO-O-O-O-ONE, like some $10,000 claiming horse with a 7-length lead in the homestretch. Never any info on what yardline the runner/receiver is at, never how close his pursuers might be, or if the ball carrier is making any cutbacks on this way to the endzone - - - it's all missing. His way of adding excitement to his voice and to the broadcasts is put is some basso, low grumble in his calll; very shallow. Also, as he listens to whatever inept color guy is employed by KFAN over the years (especially Joe Senser and Greg Gandhi Coleman - not so much Bercich), he usually just sits there and says "yah" and "un-huh" over and over. Man Paul, just shut-up and let the color guy say his piece (usually as stupid as it the comments really are); we didn't forget that you are still there for the 3 seconds the color guy is babbling. He is wretched, and only because most listeners are just man-crushed excited about any and all aspects of Vikings football does he get away with being is terrible as is really is. Paul says what the Viking Rubes want to hear - its the lowest common denominator, but not very professional or compelling to listen to. My hope is that he becomes just good enough at race calling to move to another market. Hell, I'd rather listen to Joe McConnell (old Vikes annoucer of many, many years ago) wet his pants over a Vikings first down, like he routinely did, than listen to PA. PA is just a weinie announcer.
APB (not verified)02:14pm
Oct 9
I gotta agree with Anon (if you have Britt's column on your RSS feed then surely you know better to not identify yourself). I cannot listen to PA either in the morning and esp. on fall Sundays. I physically cringed when I first heard Blaine F put PA in the same sentence as Kevin Harlan (I love Harlan and espcially enjoyed him doing the Wolves). I started questioning my judgement when Britt agreed with him and said he enjoyed both. I suppose none of us our infallible, especially me. But still, I cannot listen to the guy for the exact reasons you mentioned (un-huh, yah...).
Britt Robson01:04pm
Oct 10
I let "anonymous" slide this time (but no more) because I do know that it is easy to forget to affix a name under our system and he seems like he wants to get in the spirit of what we do. I understand why APB and anon and probably others don't like PA--he's an exciter, not a soother (like Summerall or Al Michaels or Ray Scott)and he's got his catch-phrases and idiosyncrasies that, if you don't like 'em, you're not going to enjoy anything he says after awhile. The reason I like him, and think that the comparison to Harlan isn't off-base, tho' I prefer Harlan, is that in addition to play-by-play, he's not afraid to lend a little opinion and to backfill information about stuff other than the most basic aspects of the play. This is especially important for a radio guy. BTW, what's wrong with calling breakaway plays like horse races? The situations seem kind of analogous to me.
Zekeman10 (not verified)02:44pm
Oct 13
Previously Anon, but here now with my Nom de Plume - Ok with you now, Britt. Back to bashing PA - it really doesn't have anything to do with PA being and exciter or a soother or whatever other category of announcer name you want to come up with. It has to do with professionalism, descriptive accuracy, and arrogance. PA is a shameless whore for the Vikings; he was a nobody sports guy and got tabbed to be a play-by-play annoucer for an NFL team, probably due to agreeing to a cheap salary in exchange for the opportunity - wasn't he tabbed as such during the Red "Cheap" McCombs era for his announcer duties? A running back motoring for a touchdown, being chased by defenders deserves a better description than "he is go-o-o-o-ne". It just does. He tries to act all cool with his "bits" and "thats how we roll" and a multitude of other wienie sayings he uses during his weekday show and in his play-by-play chores. He is like the nerdy kid you knew in high school that caught a break and now thinks he is real cool - - but you still know him for the nerd that he is. Also, he seems so enamored with the fact that he gets to hang around with professional athletes that he loses all perspective of being a journalist, if that isn't an oxymoron,while being a local announcer. He is more Sid Hartman than Patrick Reusse in dealing with his access to these people. His knowledege of the game is good, but not great. He got a great opportunity to be an NFL radio play-by-play guy, one I bet lots of aspiring play-by-play guys would love to have, but he isn't doing much with it - mostly because his capacity to do better isn't really there. Viking listeners are getting all that PA has, which ain't much. Bottom line - PA applies extreme suction in his play-by-play duties.

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