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The Three Pointer: A Golden Breakthrough

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Game # 38, Road Game #19: Minnesota 95, Phoenix 115

Game #39, Road Game #20: Minnesota 108, Denver 111

Game #40, Road Game #21: Minnesota 109, Golden State 108

Season record: 6-34

First of all, apologies for the near-weeklong absence. I wrote a fairly detailed three pointer on Sunday after the Phoenix and Denver games, only to have it eaten by computer gremlins. Some of what disappeared into the virtual ether needs to be updated or chucked, some of it still stands.

1. Foul Play

We've got to begin with the whistles. When first Ryan Gomes and then Rashad McCants were sent to the bench with three fouls midway through the second quarter Friday night against Phoenix, the Wolves were down a mere point. By the halftime intermission, the lead was 14 and the ballgame was essentially over. "You saw the momentum change right there," McCants told the Strib. But was he magnifying his own importance or lamenting his shortcomings by once again playing himself to the sidelines due to fouls?

The next night against Denver, the Wolves lose the game by 3 and the free throw contest by 28, being outshot at the line 43-15 (for made free throws the disparity was 35-12). Al Jefferson got tagged with a technical in the closing seconds arguing an out of bounds possession call. After the game, coach Randy Wittman complained, "All they had to do was yell and get free throws. I guess we still have to teach our guys how to do that." McCants added, "Sometimes we find a way to lose a game. It wasn't that we found a way. It was kind of taken away from us."

I have strong feelings on both sides of this issue. First of all, as I mentioned a few treys ago, the Wolves get jobbed by the officials on a regular basis, both due to the relative lack of stars on the team and the relative lack of smart, consistently aggressive play that builds up goodwill on borderline calls. Only one team--Indiana--is whistled for fouls more often than the Wolves, and only one team--Toronto--has its opponents whistled fewer times than the Wolves. Consequently, the disparity of foul calls between Minnesota and their opponent on a per-game basis is +6.15. Six extra fouls, on average, every game. That's enough to disqualify a player, or automatically land the team in the penalty for a quarter. It's saddles at least two or three Timberwolves with enough additional "foul trouble" to affect their play, or their playing time. And it is grossly out of line with the other 29 teams in the NBA--Indiana, the team with the second-worst disparity, is just +2.70, or less than half of the onus on the Wolves.

But the kind of victimization talk voiced after the Denver game is counterproductive for this franchise. The main reasons why the Wolves get screwed by the refs is because they are callow, timid, and inconsistent in their aggression. They reach in with their hands and flap their mouths more diligently than they move their feet, and they simply lack talent. Take Saturday night: The matchups off the starting lineups were Jefferson vs. Marcus Camby, Gomes vs. Melo Anthony, McCants vs. Iverson, Telfair vs. Anthony Carter, and Marko Jaric vs. Linus Kleiza (Jaric was supposedly guarding AI, with Shaddy on Kleiza, but the switches were frequent and appropriate.) There wasn't one spot on the floor where you could say Minnesota had a lockdown advantage on defense.

Meanwhile Denver was throwing out two players among their starting five ranked among the NBA's top ten at getting to the line--Melo and AI. Anyone who saw the Denver game saw that many of Minnesota's fouls were purposeful, meant to make the Nugs "earn it at the line" after they had beaten the Wolves off the dribble, in transition, or with an interior pass. Yes, there were some tough calls down the stretch--it does seem as if Iverson travelled on a crucial crunchtime possession, for example. But on the three plays that so vexed (and involved) Jefferson--some contact on his strong move to the hoop, a turnover for him stepping on the baseline trying to save a ball, and an out-of-bounds call that earned him the T--were all very close judgment calls that could have gone either way (the drive to the hoop and the confluence of hands on the out of bounds cite) or were correctly called against Minnesota (Jefferson did seem to step over the baseline).

McCants in particular needs to realize that he either needs to move his feet and commit himself at the defensive end more thoroughly, purposefully avoid either the cheap or, when he's already in foul trouble, the purposeful, strategic infraction, or resign himself to long minutes on the bench that significantly reduce the Wolves' chances of winning, and besmirch his reputation. The Denver game is a case in point. He picked up two quick fouls in the first quarter trying to guard Iverson and was sent to the bench. In the second quarter, he played a vital role in sparking Minnesota's comeback, especially his ability to pass and flow in transition, giving the Nugs some of their own medicine. In the third period, he fouled Iverson again and then Melo, sending him to the bench with 3:20 play in the third period. Then, with 6:32 to play in a one-point game, Shaddy made the wrong pass in transition (he fed to his right, into a defender's hands, while Gomes was open on the wing to his left), and committed a no-doubt loose ball foul scrambling to atone for the miscue. That sent him to the bench for a crucial three-minute stretch of crunchtime.

Why was it crucial? Because McCants is a matchup nightmare for the Nugs, having gone off for a career high 34 against them last time the two teams played. He had 23 and was a team-high plus +15 in the 35:05 he stayed on the court. That means the Wolves were minus -18 in the 12:55 McCants was on the bench. Now what was that he said again about the game being taken away from the Wolves? His inference was toward the refs' bias, but every one of the five fouls that limited his minutes seemed legit.

Ah, but against Golden State this afternoon, the light bulb finally seemed to pop on in Shaddy's head. When Monte Ellis beat him off the dribble in the first quarter, Shaddy resisted committing the foul that would given Ellis (a 78% foul shooter) two trips to the line instead of a basket. McCants was also moving more diligently on defense, while continuing his recent offensive contributions--he's fit into the flow of the team's offense better than ever the past week or two. Yes, he had some turnover troubles--four, by halftime, after getting four against Denver--but also picked up three dimes and, perhaps most significantly, had the fewest shots of any member of the starting five. And just one foul.

Got that? McCants was resisting his reach-in temptations on D, and, while being a tad turnover prone, was passing out of the perimeter double-teams Golden State occasionally threw at him and rarely if ever short-circuited the offense by hogging the ball. Despite all this, Randy Wittman still chose to sit him for an 8:22 stretch in the second quarter, When he departed, replaced by Antoine Walker, the Wolves were up ten 37-27, with 10:37 to play in the half. When he returned, with 2:49 to play, the Warriors were up by 1, 48-47.

Wittman did not learn from the experience, but instead duplicated it in the fourth period. subbing out Shaddy with the Wolves up 4 and 8:42 to play. I figured it was simply a chance for McCants to catch his breath, but Wittman left him on the sidelines until the score was tied and there were just two minutes left. Finally reinserted, McCants zipped a nice pass to Ryan Gomes halfway between the basket and the foul line, forcing Golden State to foul. Gomes made both free throws for Minnesota's final points of the afternoon, and the difference in the game.

With McCants demonstrating improvement in key facets of his game--the ability to avoid foul trouble and to foster ball movement--it is a mystery why Wittman played the least of any of his starters. Once again, McCants was a team-best plus +15 in 31:39 of play. What that means is that the Wolves have scored 30 more points than their opponents in the 66:44 that McCants has been on the court the past two games, and been absolutely waxed by their opponents, outscored by 32, in the 29:16 he has sat on the bench. While this is a more dramatic outcome than has occurred for most of the season, the fact remains that, relative to their other starters, the Wolves have benefited most by the minutes for McCants pretty much the entire year.

2. The Mystery of Small Ball

It is good to see that Wittman and company are belatedly recognizing that the Jefferson-Smith frontcourt pairing is usually not an effective tandem. After playing Big Al and the Rhino together for 6:46 of the first 13:15 of the Denver game--and going minus -9 during their stint--the coach shelved the combo the rest of the game and today's Golden State tilt besides. It probably seems churlish to mention it in the wake of the competitive loss to Denver and the feel-good win this afternoon, but the next puzzler in the allotment of minutes is the brain trust's strangely stubborn desire to play Al Jefferson at center.

According to the 82games.com website, Jefferson is a more accurate shooter at his natural position of power forward than he is at center. He also rebounds better, commits fewer turnovers and fewer fouls per 48 minutes, and has almost exactly the same ratio of blocks and assists. And he dominates opposing power forwards much more than his edge on opposing centers. Not surprisingly then, the Wolves are outscored by an average of 16 points per 48 minutes when Jefferson plays center, compared to being outscored by just 1.8 points per 48 when Jefferson is at power forward.

If statistics don't phase you, let's talk philosophy. What is it that Wolves fans most want to see happen this season? I'd venture that the most popular answer and top priority would involve the ability to evaluate the young talent in challenging game settings as often as possible so determinations can be made on who should be culled, who should be re-signed, and who is or isn't able to make progress against NBA competition. In other words, this year, the key is to accumulate solid, realistic knowledge on the NBA readiness of the boatload of young players dominating the roster.

Chris Richard seems to be exactly the sort of player Minnesota would want to toss under the microscope this season. Yeah, he's just a second round draft pick, but the Wolves aren't exactly overflowing with quality options among the natural centers on their roster--Michael Doleac and Mark Madsen. It is not like Richard's ceiling is going to get appreciably higher with patience: He's already older than four players on the team--Jefferson, Telfair, Gerald Green and his college teammate Corey Brewer--and having stayed in college for three years and two national championships under Billy Donovan at Florida, his overall grasp of the game is precocious, relative to his scant NBA minutes. Indeed, Richard's greatest flaw thus far--a total lack of offense--would seem best remedied by the boost in confidence some steady NBA minutes would provide, especially if the coaches urged him to look for his shot more often.

Put it this way: If you are letting Richard languish on the bench *this* year, it is a fairly loud signal he doesn't fit into the Wolves' future plans, given the paucity of alternatives.

But there are at least two other good reasons for putting Richard in the pivot. First, the person you displace from the starting lineup is Jaric, the one player who has been thoroughly vetted by the franchise in terms of his strengths and weaknesses. Is there really that much difference between Marko's performance this season and what we've seen the previousj two years? It is difficult to imagine him changing his idiosyncratic spots this late in his career. Second, sliding Richard in for Jaric in the starting lineup enables no fewer than three Timberwolves currently playing out of position in the small-ball lineup to move back to the place they are most comfortable. Not only would Jefferson go from center to power forward, but Ryan Gomes would become a small forward instead of a power forward, and Rashad McCants would go to the backcourt as an off-guard, where he belongs.

For those who argue that small ball is the trend of the future, or the best utilization of the Wolves' current talent, I point to the fast break statistics. Minnesota currently yields more FB points than any team int he league, and ranks 28th, out of 30 teams, in generating FB points of their own. So just because they're small doesn't mean they thrive in transition,

3. Last Thought

Ryan Gomes takes what the defenses give him, and Golden State gave him a lot this afternoon: Gomes racked up a career high, incredibly efficient, 35 points to go with 11 rebounds, shooting 11-15 FG and getting to the line 12 times while missing the free throw just once. During the telecast, Wolves color commentator Jim Petersen said that over the past six weeks Gomes has been Minnesota's second-best player. Okay, sure, but for the last month, since December 21, he's been the best player, period, on the team: Nearly as valuable as Al Jefferson in terms of offensive flow and synergy, and better on defense.

 

35 Reader Comments

Peter Weinhold (not verified)07:08am
Jan 22
In the year of our Lord, 2008 A.D. (After Donaghy), what has changed about NBA refereeing? Bad teams get jobbed at a higher rate than good ones. Especially, as you so aptly point out, the Wolves would rather guard with their arms than move their feet. In addition, in looking at the Wolves record this year, roughly 1/3 of the games they've played this year have been mailed in. This pattern held true over the weekend, where they gave up after the 37-15 run Phoenix started in the second quarter, then played hard in Denver and Golden State. Maybe they should text message the league before every game, letting them know they'll play hard for four quarters, and officially plead with the referees to call an honest game. Lost in all the organizational whining about the Denver game is that if Walker hits his two free throws late in the game, the complexion of the contest becomes much different. If Baron Davis hits the layup at the end of the game yesterday, how much talk would there have been about the obvious Azubuike goaltend that wasn't called? Translation: you make your own luck in this league. All this McCants talk makes my head hurt, so we'll have to agree to disagree. To me, his plus/minus stats are illusionary. Much of the flow of the game stops when he has the ball, and when the game is on the line, he's a no-show. He's a better option than Walker at the end of the game simply because he can hit a free throw. His on-court moodiness displays the type of the selfishness this team doesn't need. I'd rather see him scowl for another club.
caerochren (not verified)08:10am
Jan 22
I also remain suspicious of McCants plus/minus. Somehow he is most effective when he does the least... a rare trait? I'll have to take your more informed viewing word on it when you say he switched onto AI alot, it certainly seems to me that Jaric was almost always on Iverson and Gomes on Anthony. His play against Golden State seemed some of his best all year because he almost never held onto the ball - he either took his shot, drove right away, or passed quickly. On defense I didn't notice him - which is probably good, I most only notice when he commits stupid fouls. On another topic, did anyone else feel that Jefferson was getting frustrated by his lack of touches - which was effecting his rebounding and general hustle? I couldn't tell if that was making him go one on four when he got the ball, or is that his normal unwillingness to pass out of the low post. To his credit he normally scored, but still that was quite the black hole display.
Stop-n-Pop (not verified)08:16am
Jan 22
I'm by no means a McCants defender and I'd like to see him packaged with Ratliff and Jaric and sent to Cleveland in a 3 way deal with Sacramento (Bibby), but Shaddy is averaging about 18, 4, and 4 over the last 10 games while either putting up positive +/- numbers or being the highest negative starter on the team. He's also shooting about 45% from beyond the arc in the last 10.
rishdog (not verified)09:49am
Jan 22
Hey guys, I was wondering if anybody has an update on Foye, and how the rotation will change when he comes back to the lineup. I would assume that he'll start at the point with Shaddy at the two, and then either brewer or gomes at the three, but I could also see us playing Foye at the off-guard alongside Telfair at the point. Also, I'm trying to figure out how Rashad's emergence affects our draft strategy next year. Before this stretch, I had assumed that D-Rose would be our choice since Beasley is really similar to Big Al, and neither plays D so they'd be a bad combo. I think a D-Rose and Randy Foye backcourt would be big, strong and athletic enough to become one of the best in the league in a short time, but that would push Rashad out of minutes. I think, like Britt says, our best plan would be to get a true center, but the only great prospect in this draft (Jordan) is a major project and won't be viable for a few years. -Rishi
Britt Robson11:21am
Jan 22
Rish-- Check the comments section in the previous Three Pointer; there was plenty of college talk. Quite frankly, it bores me to tears, trying to figure out what the Wolves will do this summer when we have no idea where they will draft, who is coming out and whether any of these teenagers (okay, some are 20, 21) will ever pan out in the NBA. I tolerate it because some smart people say what seem to be smart things, but it's just not my thing. By contrast, we saw players on the current roster perform yesterday, bagging a win on the road. They've got a game tomorrow night against a team that has thus far split the season series. Why play fantasy basketball when the game itself unfolds in front of you on a thrice-weekly basis?
midlife crisis (not verified)08:36am
Jan 23
C'mon Britt, you know why we engage in draft talk. It's the same reason we buy new basketball shoes just after rotator cuff surgery. If the present is a drag, certainly we can look to the future. What a relief though, when the wolves win. Then you feel like it's worth looking on a "thrice-weekly basis". When the wins come only once every ten games, the reasons for the losses are so similar, and there seems to be no urgency to either change for the sake of winning or for the sake of learning about the future, it becomes distressing to watch. We bought into (well, most did) the change for change's sake approach to the season, and to maintain interest, we should be more willing to change when we stink historically. Still, the draft is six months away; and after a win I'm more than happy to wait to think of it until then
Andy G (not verified)11:51am
Jan 23
There is one draft-related issue that also ties in our regular season wins, and that is this: we are quickly (and I say that assuming Foye and Ratliff return soon with some level of success) becoming better than both Miami and Seattle, and will not be the worst team in the NBA when it's all said and done. I think most would agree that a Foye-McCants-Gomes-Jefferson-Ratliff starting five will end the season with more wins than at least those two teams. I'm curious to see how the coach and management handle this. I think we're best off trying to win every possible game we can, and hope for luck in the lottery. However, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Al Jeff and/or Foye come up with new "injuries" in the final 20 or so games of this season. The KG trade may lose a good chunk of its value if we don't get a top 3 draft slot out of his loss. If they do start tanking, I'm not sure they'll be able to fill the courtside seats, let alone the upper deck.
Nate (not verified)12:29pm
Jan 23
Good point Andy G. Yet another reason to be giving Brewer and Richard big minutes unless they can't mentally or physically handle them. Hopefully the damn team won't tank again this year. So bad for the b-ball Karma.
drza44 (not verified)09:50am
Jan 22
Stats are a tool. They can be used incorrectly, or used as false evidence if the assertion being tested isn't well-defined enough, but when that happens it is more of an indictment on the analyst than it is on the stat. Because at the end of the day, stats are objective, it is how they are used that is subjective. I say all of that to say that it isn't so much a question of whether McCants' +/- numbers are illusion or suspicious. His +/- is a fact...there's nothing to be suspicious of, it is simply fact that the Wolves have played much better with him on the court this season than with him off (the team was also better with McCants on the court last season, as he was second among Wolves regulars only to Kevin Garnett in +/- in '06-07). Where the question arises is with the interpretation that, because the team plays better with McCants, that means that McCants is a good player or good for the Wolves. It is hard to make a complete argument for a statement that general (and impactful) based purely on numbers, as there are so many mitigating factors. Perhaps the fact that McCants is the only perimeter scorer on the team this season distorts the issue...in other words, maybe McCants gets an 'A' on the curve since the rest of the curve (Jaric, Telfair, Green, Buckner) is so weak that McCants can't help but be better even if he's not that good (This argument is weakened by the fact that McCants had a positive effect last season as well when his offense was broke and the Wolves had other offensive players like Ricky Davis and Randy Foye in his slot...but still, the argument could be made). But at the end of the day, the stats make it difficult (IMO) for people to stand on their soapbox against the perceived ills that McCants brings. He gets more negative attention, especially on message boards, than anyone else on the Wolves in the last couple seasons. The stats might not be able to tell us definitively that McCants is a good player, but I do think they tell us that he has brought a lot more positives to this team than guys like Davis, Jaric, or Telfair (arguably even Foye) have in the last two seasons so perhaps some of the vitriol that is directed at McCants might be better spent on the other Wolves that are bringing less to the table.
Rwb (not verified)08:15am
Jan 22
Richard is not the answer at C. That is why he is not getting time on the court. It may be that even though he has a long wingspan, his lack of height hurts the team in the paint. I just do not think you can win consistantly when your front court is on average less than 6'9" on most nights. Wolves are in need of a legit center. NO matter how many times McHale thinks a short player will work there, it has not. We can look at all the options he has tried, and they all did not work. Until we have a decent defensive monster in the paint, we will keep losing. Rob
drza44 (not verified)09:30am
Jan 22
There could be truth to what you say, that Richard just isn't the answer. But the thing is that a) none of the other big men on the roster are the answer either and b) this would seem to be the year to test that to see if Richard is even viable as a back-up big man or whether he should just be let go. We know that guys like Doleac and Madsen aren't in the team's future in any meaningful way, and we've seen the results of playing guys like Walker or Smith next to Big Al for extended minutes...and those results aren't pretty. Why not run Richard out there next to Big Al for some consistent time, see if there is anything at all to that combo, and then at least we know more what is on the team and what absolutely is needed this offseason.
Britt Robson10:00am
Jan 22
Rwb-- Notice that you said "It *may be* that even though he has a long wingspan, his lack of height hurts the team in the paint." Wouldn't now be a good time to prove or disprove that? Yes, the Wolves are proving you can't win consistently with a small frontcourt. But instead of all the burn for Jaric at the expense of checking out Richard and playing three guys out of position, let's see what Richard can do. The minutes are so insignificant that it is not a good sample, but according to 82games.com, the Wolves' defense improves by an average of 12 points per 48 minutes when Richard plays, with a corresponding drop off in offensive production of just .6 of a point per 48.
drza44 (not verified)10:28am
Jan 22
Britt, I'm going to play some more Devil's advocate with you. You make the assertion that Gomes is playing out of position at the PF and that it'd be better to get him into the SF slot. Meanwhile, Gomes was a natural PF in college that is still trying to transition to SF and he is playing his best ball of the year right at the time he is getting more time at PF. Could it be that Gomes isn't really a SF, and that the reason that he is playing so well lately is BECAUSE he is getting more time at PF? The same 82games.com evidence that you use to support Big Al at PF also suggests that Gomes is better at PF. Gomes does better individually at PF than SF (+5.5 net PER at PF, only +.3 net PER at SF), and the team does better with him at PF than SF (-4.5 with him at PF, -9.4 with him at SF). Maybe Gomes CAN play SF (whereas Smith, for example, can't) but at least numerically it doesn't seem like he helps the team more at SF. Any thoughts on that?
Britt Robson11:14am
Jan 22
Ryan Gomes is 6-7, 250. Regardless of his "natural" position in college, that doesn't make him an NBA power forward unless he's developed a Charles Barkley backside when I wasn't looking. The numbers don't look good for Gomes at small forward because most of the time he has played there it is beside the Jefferson-Smith tandem. For a synergistic, help-oriented defender like Gomes, the defensive lapses of Jefferson-Smith are going to expose his man when he helps out. And for a guy who thrives on ball movement such as Gomes, the double black hole approach of Jefferson-Smith discourages his efforts to move without the ball, one of the things that has sparked his recent spike in FG% and a key to yesterday's win. To the extent that the SF spot has been a weakness for Gomes, it is because he couldn't buy a shot during his late Nov., early Dec. slump; that plus additional turnovers at the 3. Make Gomes the linchpin between a legit center and Jefferson in the paint, and Foye and McCants on the perimeter. There is nothing I've seen thus far this season that indicates the Wolves can come up with a better starting five than that.
drza44 (not verified)09:22am
Jan 22
Mr. Robson, I referenced one of your Three Pointers in an article that I wrote last week as support for the idea that the Wolves play better with Big Al at PF than C (It is what I wanted to talk to you about last week, so I hope that is ok with you that I referenced your site). I wouldn't mention it, but the first two paragraphs of my article turned out to be almost verbatim with the second point in your trey today (and consistent with the story you've been telling for weeks) as the numbers clearly indicate that thus far the Wolves have been better this season with Big Al playing PF than C. http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/nba/news;_ylt=AkHUlcq0hOxNymzaezOFW9pNC5kB?slug=as-hoopslab_011808 Despite the evidence, though, I can still see some reasonable counter arguments made for leaving him at center if A) the Wolves think that Al will eventually develop into a better center with experience (he does have the physical gifts to play some center) or B) perhaps Al is fine at center, as long as he plays with a certain type of power forward. The Wolves currently only play shorter non-shotblocking power forwards like Smith, Walker, and possibly Gomes next to Al, and maybe the 82games.com numbers are telling us that THAT kind of combo in the middle won't work but not necessarily that Big Al at C won't work. If this is the logic in Minny, perhaps they feel that they are more likely to get a startable defensive-minded power forward than they are a startable defensive-minded center within the foreseeable future (a defendable stance, based on the relative paucity of stud centers vs. power forwards) and THAT is why they keep Big Al at C. I don't know, maybe it's just playing Devil's Advocate, but that's the only reasoning I could see for why they'd consistently throw him out there at C despite the team's struggles with him there.
drza44 (not verified)09:26am
Jan 22
As soon as I submitted the previous comment, I immediately questioned whether or not I should have added the link to my article. I don't know the etiquette here well enough. It was meant to support what I said in my first paragraph, but if it is a no-no to link outside articles here please remove it (I would myself but I haven't found a way to edit previous comments here).
Britt Robson09:53am
Jan 22
drza44-- Don't worry about the link, I'm happy to have it, and you certainly don't need to apologize for citing my work in other places. Since we switched comment threads it is more difficult for me to identify commenters; I have to doink or not based on what they say only, which is also fine with me. As to the greater point, Jefferson strikes me as someone who could be a power forward on a championship contender someday. But unless his defense improves by leaps and bounds, I can't envision him being a center on a championship contender. He does not fit in well with a running game (one reason the Wolves are 28th in fast break points) and unless the Wolves can draft a tremendous and versatile defender at the 4--sorry, but the first to come to mind is KG--I don't see them being a lock-down interior defensive team either. The numbers really are stunning on Jefferson at center. Either he is a horrible player, or he is playing out of position. To put the latter on a 22 year old when there is precious little indication that he can physically become much better or that the Wolves have a quality power forward in the wings is unfair to him and his teammates.
joellovr (not verified)11:45am
Jan 22
I agree to a point. What defines a Center? Is a Center defined on the Offensive end or the Defensive end? Maybe the Wolves are trying to run the offence as if Big Al is the power forward and then on the Defensive side they are having him cover the Center. Then what the 82games.com is telling us is that when Jefferson is covering the Center it affects his offensive game. Also it tells us that Big Al and The Rhino are not compatible on the court as the only big men for Minnesota. The former concerns me but is also indicitive of Jeffersons Defensive ability. So does that mean we should be looking to trade Craig Smith as he is a good player but does not fit with the direction the wolves are going (or least they think they are going)? What about trying to put Doleac at Center, Big Al at PF and Craig Smith at SF and Gomes at SG with Jaric a PG. Then we could play big. Just a thought from the opposite of the Don Nelson school of coaching.
Anonymous (not verified)01:45pm
Jan 22
Am I the only one who wonders where is Gerald Green? I saw a stat that said he averaged 16 points a game as a starter last year (10 games). I know he doesn't play the best defense. It looks like he is too aggressive on D by going for any pump fake and giving up easy fouls. However he is not going to get better unless he plays. I just want to see him get a good chunk of consistent minutes to see what he can do. Who knows, maybe he can get better?
Wim (Belgium) (not verified)08:42am
Jan 23
First of all, he's at a position where a lot of our players are. Brewer, Mccants, Jaric, and Foye will also get some minutes there. Since we already have so much players that are better than him and we're sure we wanna keep (well almost sure) .. why waste time on Green. Second, in the minutes he gets he shows that he defenitly has the psychical skills (speed, jumping, shooting) BUT mentally he is completely lost, especially on the defensive side. The NBA is no place to start learning basketball. I think he would be best off placed in D-league, to see if he can figure basketball out when he gets minutes. But we just don't have minutes for someone who is too far away from being NBA ready. On the other hand, Wittman said GG would get his chance, so maybe he's just waiting untill he's sure about the other players before he gives GG a chance .. who knows. And to spare Mr. Robson the trouble: use a handle! Don't post "anonymously"
Nate (not verified)10:30am
Jan 23
The best hope to move Al away from the 5 is for Ratliff to come back, play 20-25 minutes at the 5 and have Al tear it up at the 4 while Theo is playing. This might inform the front office and coaching staff that Al has much more potential at the 4 than the 5. From watching this season, however, it seems clear that the Wolves envision Jefferson as a 5, who occasionally plays the 4 given matchups. While there certainly are worse centers out there than Al, there aren't many PF that are better. For those of you having the pleasure of sitting in on an Econ 101 course, it's clear that the opportunity cost of Al playing the 5 is quite high. Brewer's progress is a bit depressing. Hopefully he's simply hit the rookie wall and his minutes will increase after the all-star break. They've got to play the man!
Andy B (not verified)02:32pm
Jan 23
Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist. --John Maynard Keynes
antonymous (not verified)02:52pm
Jan 22
Wow - it's nice being able to miss a few games and see that everyone else is still paying attention! First of all, the entire frontcourt fiasco needs to get resolved if we want to win any more games and evaluate talent in the process. But what I see is too many minutes for Al at C - we have to limit Al and Rhino's time on the court together (at least without a true center - I'm fine with Craig guarding the SF if it's a bigger Kleiza-type of player). I'd like to see Richard get half the minutes at C, and let our other centers fight for the rest. Maybe it's all the Kool Aid I drank before the season, but remember how good we looked with Theo at C? Every PF on our roster needs a solid defensive presence behind them at the 5 spot to play effective man-defense - Craig and Al are both below-average help defenders. It looks like we've suddenly stopped talking about Corey Brewer. We're almost halfway through the season, and he's not exactly overwhelming anyone, is he? And now he has to fight for minutes with a suddenly-useful Ryan Gomes? Ouch! I don't like second-guessing picks (especially in their rookie year - Corey's ceiling is still high) but is there anyone out there who wouldn't trade him for Noah or Sean Williams right now? Either of those guys would take those C minutes that we now burn on Jefferson.
Wim (Belgium) (not verified)08:45am
Jan 23
I was very happy when we picked Brewer. He might need some more work than Noah and others but he's defenitly someone who fits into our identity (well, the identity McHale said he wants to establish). We defenitly needed some extra d (we still do) and even though he needs a lot of work, I think he'll be a great keeper for our team.
Jim (not verified)01:30pm
Jan 23
I don't get why they took Brewer, especially when they knew they were trading KG and probably were going to get even more swingmen back. People talk of his "ceiling" but what is it, how long before he reaches it and will he even be here when he does? I know he's a rookie, but given his lack of size/strength and offensive abilities, it's hard to see him becoming anything more than an energy rotation player in the next few years. I get that he had a great college career and plays hard and can rebound, but what are the odds Brewer develops into a starting caliber 3 (he can't be a 2 because of his limited offensive skill set)? Especially now that Gomes is coming on strong, Brewer seems like a long term project at best and potential huge bust as a top ten pick. If someone has a defense of Brewer's skills that doesn't focus on his "energy" or "understanding" of the game, I would love to hear it because as of now I'm really down on him and would like a reason to change my mind.
Britt Robson03:01pm
Jan 23
Jim-- Okay, I'll bite. To become a quality NBA player, Brewer needs two things that historically haven't been that hard to foster: More bulk on his torso and a better flow and accuracy on his jump shot. I think just calling Brewer's motor "energy" doesn't give it justice. Some people are simply more comfortable always hustling in an up-and-down flow, and Brewer is one of those people. He is one of the very few pros, never mind rookies, and looks to push the tempo the second he receives the ball. And is defensive rotations and recognitions are partly his "understanding" of the game but also borne of hustling hard to complete the rotation, jump-start the switch, or close out on his man. That give him raw materials to become a lock-down defender, something that now only requires more bulk and a tad more experience for him to achieve. I envision him as a Bruce Bowen, Raja Bell, Larry Hughes type of player. Naysayers will correctly note that that trio aren't even regarded among the top three or four players on their teams. I'll counter that they all play for winners, and fill a role that most every winning team must fill--the ability to stymie, if not totally shut down, an opponent's top perimeter scorer. I agree that Brewer has not performed up to my expectations, but I feared that would be true the second I saw him in the flesh. On television in the NCAA tournament, he looked to be a fairly rugged player physically. Frankly, I was shocked at how slender he was, particularly his legs. Yet I have seen quite a bit of promise and plenty of what has become rare virtues in this league--you can call it energy and understanding, I'll call it an infectious joy of hustling and wise and aggressive orientation toward team play. Bottom line, I regard in very similar terms to the way I regarded McCants and Foye their rookie years; tantalyzing but no sure thing, with a mixture of pros and cons that could go either way.
Andy G (not verified)03:38pm
Jan 23
There are "star" players who always find themselves on losers. See Ricky Davis, Stephon Marbury, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Zach Randolph. And there are "role" players who always find themselves on winning teams. See Bruce Bowen, Robert Horry, Derek Fisher. I think it's safe to say that Brewer will not ever be a "star," but will perhaps be more valuable than a lot of players that score more points and receive more recognition than he will in his career. The main reasons that I see for Wolves fans to expect improvement are: 1) his attitude, from everything I've read, sounds about as good as you could ever expect. He's always smiling and the articles about his work ethic/farming background I think? made me think he's a pretty safe bet to work his hardest to improve; 2) his explosiveness--he can attack the rim, but like SnP mentioned in the last comments section, he's too skinny and may have to bulk up before we see this at the pro level. That shouldn't be too difficult, at least with some time; 3) his lack of hesitation on his jumpshot--this is the one area where I like Brewer's offensive game possibly more than any other TWolf. He catches a pass, and if he's open, he pulls the trigger--at least from the games I've watched. I think that, once the game slows down for him, which it undoubtedly will, those confident jumpers will start to fall with a lot more frequency.
Jim (not verified)03:43pm
Jan 23
Thanks Britt, You make a strong case for Brewer and his potential. I'd be pleased if he turned out similar to any of the three players you mentioned, (especially Bowen) though it's debatable if that type of skill set is worth a top ten pick. Also, all three took awhile to get going in the pros and didn't settle in until there were on their second or third team. It would be too bad if, when Brewer comes into his own, it's in another NBA city. With Gomes around, it will be interesting to see what ends up happening with Brewer. Regardless, I agree he's an intriguing talent.
Stop-n-Pop (not verified)05:11pm
Jan 23
It really didn't make a bit of sense. None. Zip, zero. I like Brewer and I think he'll work out but he's basically a Super Ebi right now. It definitely put their draft plans back another year (which can be added to the year taken by the Foye pick...which can then be added to Joe Smith's tab). Oh well. I do remember some of the talk at the time of the draft was that the Wovles needed to find a Hassel-esque defensive stopper. Seriously. I think Steven Smith yelled that at me on the TV. I can't remember the exact time line, but the pick was made with people believing that KG would still be on the team for the entire season. Does anyone else remember how the pick went down?
College Wolf (not verified)01:14am
Jan 23
I'm a little late arriving to the party (busy with TWolvesblog these days) and I've only read through the comments about Britt and drz's discussion about Gomes. Why can't Gomes play SF for our team? I think he can. He's not big enough to play PF most nights. It works against teams like Golden State, but I wouldn't even want him playing PF all the time anyways. Lots of teams have "big(ger)" SF's, and I think Gomes could work. He's not the most athletic SF, but he makes up for it in almost every other aspect on the court. Give Richard burn at Center. What can it hurt? We've got six freakin wins. He's a better option than Madsen and Doleac. And it's much better playing Gomes at SF and Jefferson at PF, rather than Gomes at PF and Al at C. Just wanted to agree with Britt on this one.
Andy B (not verified)10:43am
Jan 23
I agree with Britt that we should be giving more burn to Richard, and only partly because I want to see more of Richard. What really sells me on the idea is Britt's point that we have seen enough of Jaric. I do believe that when the Wolves win, Jaric has played well. His presence out there can be productive. But, as many have pointed out, this year is about evaluating talent and looking to the future. We know what Jaric can bring and what he doesn't. It is also difficult to imagine that Jaric will be part of this team when (and if) it develops into a playoff caliber team. Richard for Jaric makes sense for exactly the reasons Britt states - it moves the rest to their natural positions. McCants at the Two, Telfair at Point, Big Al at the 4, Ryan Gome at the 3. In addition, it makes for good substitutions once Foye gets back - Telfair backs up Foye, Green backs up McCants, Brewer backs up Gomes, Smith backs up Jefferson and Richards shares minutes with Doleac until. I was in favor of the influence of veterans such as walker and Jaric in the development of the youngsters. However, Walker, Buckners, and Jarics influence should now be limited to the lockerroom and the practice floor. Their playing time should be limited greatly. I don't get why Wittman has not moved towards this rotation and substitution pattern, yet. Each of the young guys should have more of a defined role by now. Green should get consistent playing time backing up either McCants or Gomes. Same with Brewer. For now, Jaric should back up Telfair until Foye comes back. I hate knowing that the Wolves will play the Telfair, Jaric, McCants, Gomes, and Jefferson lineup tonight and against other smaller quicker lineups. Then, five games later on February 4, Wittman will trot Doleac out there to play 35 minutes against yao Ming. Matchups do create some problems and coaches need to adjust, but the Wolves also need to establish a consistent lineup and rotation that defines some type of identity.
Steve J (not verified)02:59pm
Jan 23
FreeDarko brought up the "coaches are hindered by the burden of their knowledge" arguments yesterday, and how it applies to the Wolves: "Randy Wittman would seem like a man with nothing to lose, but he refuses to throw out a lineup like Telfair-McCants-Green-Brewer-Jefferson because he is absolutely positive that small guards who can't shoot are useless, stringy 6-8 players with length can't guard power forwards, and it's always better to get a low-post look than a quick 3." I know that almost no-one thinks Big Al can play the 5 for this team, however I would love to see the aformentioned lineup. Would anyone else mind watching the Wolves run their way to 20 wins by scoring 105ppg?
Andy B (not verified)03:12pm
Jan 23
It is one way to play the young ones and its probably worth experimenting with, but I still like Telfair, McCants, Gomes, Jefferson, and RIchards better and understand Wittman even less for not going with that lineup. Green could and should get minutes as a backup at the 2 or 3 along with Brewer. We've given Big Al enough looks at the 5 and we should be looking at lineups that get him to the 4 more than lineups keeping him at the 5.
Stop-n-Pop (not verified)09:40pm
Jan 23
2 in a row!!! No critique now. Only celebration. That was the first win of the season where there were no flukes or weird performances. They frickin' won that game, no strings attached.
Wim (Belgium) (not verified)01:20am
Jan 24
Mr Robson, it must be fun to be so right. We win 2 games in a row and whats obvious? > Jaric played good to great in both games (twice 10 dimes!) > the opposing team had no real big defensive front court Let's hoop they remember this lineup works against those kind of teams and also find a winning combination against teams with bigger front courts. as we say in Dutch Hiep Hiep Hoera!

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